Or not. How you can expect anyone to watch a full series of anything they consider as crap when even watching an episode is worse than Chinese water torture for your brains? As far as I read the plot it reminds me more of Harry Potter than anything you would honestly take a serious thought of watching it.

Is it really that hard to admit that some people just don't like anime? The only anime I've watched through was Silverfang. When I was 10. Now even it seems ridiculous from the plot to the style but it was cool at that time when dogs killed each other in a cartoon.

But I guess I'm old granny already lol I just don't want a great horror/scifi/action films like aliens or predators be ruined with one more disgrace than avps have already done.

"Or not. How you can expect anyone to watch a full series of anything they consider as crap when even watching an episode is worse than Chinese water torture for your brains? As far as I read the plot it reminds me more of Harry Potter than anything you would honestly take a serious thought of watching it."

My reason is because you not giving a damn about something you think is utter shit doesn't nessecarily mean it IS shit. I know Harry Potter's story. The one equal characteristic they have is over with once you've finished reading the last sentence in the first novel. They're about as similar as Predator and Kindargten Cop.

Knowing the entire story would prove it, but you obviously have no interest in that, seeing as it's crap.

"Is it really that hard to admit that some people just don't like anime? The only anime I've watched through was Silverfang. When I was 10. Now even it seems ridiculous from the plot to the style but it was cool at that time when dogs killed each other in a cartoon."

I'm not forcing you to like anime. I'm just saying, I didn't like anime before watching this one. I used to hate anime like no one else. And that is saying something. You're going on about how it's probably the most ridiculous thing in the world when it isn't, and how you can make such an assumption without knowing everyting about it and still try justifying your opinion is beyond me.

Just because it's a cartoon doesn't mean it's bad. Not at all. It's because you're used to the idea that cartoons are for children, or anything that looks like a cartoon. That isn't always the case.

"I just don't want a great horror/scifi/action films like aliens or predators be ruined with one more disgrace than avps have already done."

Like I said - for what seems like the millionth time - I'm not saying the franchise needs an anime. But if done right, and I know for a fact it CAN be without being ridiculous, it won't turn out like Pokemon. It doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. It never will be done. That doesn't mean it would turn out bad.

I'm actually a little offended now. You admit you know jack-shit about the series and the genre in general yet you act like it's shit and always will be shit. How can you possibly use your opinions to fight mine? You're forgetting who actually watched the whole series and who hasn't - who actually knows what the story is like, how it plays out. I'm not some rabid anime fanboy. I only watch what looks like anime in the highest quality it can be.

Without knowing enough and just sampling Fullmetal, you'll probably think it's just another one of those typical Dragonball/Pokemon shows.

The more I think about it, the more I realize how an anime, or any kind of animation would ruin the series. You're right about that. But anime is NOT crap. Well, some of it isn't. I understand some people just don't like anime at all. A lot of people don't take any interest in a lot of things.

I can certainly understand why you wouldn't, especially something like anime - the bulk of it is just complete bullshit. Sadly, that same part of the genre is the most popular, and that same part is what helps generate that stereotype for anime-haters.

I might be stubborn for allowing this debate to go on as long as it has, but you and I both know if it were something you had interest in and I had been the one who considered it crap, you'd be defending it as well. That's just true for everyone. You can understand why they don't like it, but there'd always be something about their opinion you think is wrong, like, for example, now. Doesn't mean you are wrong - everyone's entitled to an opinion.

But automatically thinking it'd turn out to be crap, and that one of my favorite animes IS crap, offended me. Just because the main idea is anime. I know it would piss a lot of fans of, but (and this is true for almost everything) everything can be done right. These days it seems like a rare thing, but it's still possible.

This is getting amusing. Just lose your dome a bit and don't take things this seriously. Do you really have this kind of need to prove your own opinnion's superioty over the others? Or what's the deal in here?

I also hate the Bold and the Beautiful, even I've seen maybe one and a half chapters of it. Do I have to watch the entire series so I can be allowed to judge it, tell my opinnion about it? Some people obviously loves it 'cos it have been made for decades, and I still consider it as a crap. But again there's a saying that a million flies can't be wrong when they think dung is great food.

It is funny that whenever I talk with any animefans they get personally offended, if my opinnion is that I don't like of what they are worshipping. So what? People cannot like the same things. It wouldn't change even I would watch it for hundred hours if I get annoyed by it for the very first minutes. The fact you learnt to like it doesn't mean anything to me or that I would learn to like it. What I don't get is that even if I think it's he most ridiculous thing in the world, what itch is it in your nuts when it's my opinnion? Would it be any better if I would turn into a japanophile, just 'cos you say so? Too bad hon, I am at least as stubborn as you are.

Can someone please stop this animetalk and actually get back on topic, 'cos I'm sick of it. But hey, maybe we could also have a soap opera of AvP 'cos it have been proven to be a good thing by the masses. Kawaii=^.^=

Really, everybody should enjoy whatever they enjoy. I enjoy blood and gore when some people think it's ridiculous to have buckets of blood thrown in front of the cam but I seriously don't get offended if somebody calls that as crap, nor I start telling some deep analysis of how great Evil dead is. I would hardly even laugh and move on the subjects, not try to prove the other wrong or make him/her to watch splatter just 'cos I think it's great and they don't know tha ultimate truth in it. This debate just proved me that anime is taken as somekind of religion you shouldn't say anything against, which is damn worrying to me.

Ps. My roomie is a hardcore animefan and so far we haven't ripped each other's throats open even I make fun of her affection 24 x 7. Maybe 'cos she knows I'm partially joking and I don't have any intentions to hurt anybody's feelings? The same thing is that she jokes about my likings. This is probably called maturity when you can joke about "serious" (rofl) things without hard feelings.

I would like to see Batman vs Predator. Yes I know there's a bunch of comics for that but it would be nice to see on the big screen.


P.S. An animated series of Alein would be good just probably not for Predator. AVP maybe.

Alright, maybe you wouldn't do that.

The thing is, the way it sounded to me, you just flat-out called it crap when you admitted to not knowing anything about it. You may have been joking about it in the beginning, but there was some truth to that. Although I'm over it now, I was offended by that.

I think part of my initial message was lost after I began writing the previous post; nevertheless, an animated feature IS possible, but I never said it should be done.

Watching the entire series would tell you the whole story - I'm not telling you to do that. The idea was just used as a way to clear up the whole "similar to Harry Potter" thing that was brought up. You can form an opinion on it whether you endure the whole thing or not. It obviously isn't the type of thing for you.

Horror movies aren't for people who don't like them. It doesn't mean they're bad. That sort of idea is what I'm getting at. Of course, that doesn't apply to everything. You just don't like it. But if it obviously is crap, then it's crap.

I try to be fair most times, but I know people will still have their opinions. Now that I look back on this, I really didn't get anywhere. I'm not sure what I was doing at first, but in the end, my interests were insulted and I'm just that kind of person who feels the need to defend his interests. I guess I got carried away there, so that's my bad.

I still feel the same way about the an animated movie, but I'll agree to disagree here.

maybe instead of Pokemon and giggling school girls, maybe ya'll should think more about Dead Space: Downfall. theres an animated film that doesn't have any of the shit Pokemon or the gigglin school girl shot you all seem to associate Anime to. also, theres another show I can think of that is an Anime, The Guyver: Bioboosted Armor. that show is like Aliens in a way. and the style is just perfect for an Animated Alien film.

I'm sorry, I just can't understand why nobody will want to bring the series into a new era of film making. hell I'd love to see an Alien anime film. we got to remember, Anime isn't just for kids. hell most anime shows and films are for adults. infact, Anime is infact a much cheaper form of film/show making. in Japan, Anime goes not just as far as kid shows, but to...

Porn
Suspence
action
mystery
crime/murder

and most importantly...

HORROR

infact, if an Alien Animated film is made, I'm sure you all will watch it. infact, it'll be done way better then A:Res and the AvP films.

not to mention, reasently, Marval has released animated featured films such as...

Ultimate Avengers PG-13

Ultimate Avengers 2 PG-13

Hulk vs Thor PG-13

Hulk vs Wolverine PG-13

Superman: Doomsday PG-13

these are all animated features. the style may differ, but they are still Animated films. also look at the ratings. imagen an R rated Alien Animated film. Bursting with blood and gore, Aliens free of the limitations of a Guy in a Rubber suit or Animateronics. get the stupid idea of Pokemon flashy backgrounds and giggling school girls, and think gritty and gory scenes of an Alien ripping out intestigns of a human, and impaling people's skulls with they're tongues. none of the cutesy shit.

oops, I almost forgot. another great Animated film is Jin-Roh. gritty, violent, and nothing like the shit we get from pokemon.

am I right Bloo?

And my point was that anime still wouldn't make much of justice to either one of the genres. Adding to that I really don't get anime or why everything should be done into anime. No matter how violent anime movies/clips I've seen they still seem ridiculous to me. And that's just my opinnion. (As well as I think people who gets excited over hentai should get their heads checked but that's just me lol)

I have same kind of antipathy towards movies where most of it is computer generated. Just doesn't work. The characters becomes stiff and uninteresting. As well as in bad acting. I don't want any plastic or artificial characters in my movies or I find the fastforward or the stop button pretty fast. If I haven't let my brains under my bed (that happens too when I can actually watch some random anime, TV-shows or bad movies, otherwise I just get irritated of them).

I guess I'm not only an antihuman, I'm also japanophobic as well. Probably partially 'cos everything is so stuffed with anime and whatsoever as well as people who are animefans just 'cos it's cool and "on top" now. Like I said I've watched animeseries before the large crowds in western societies had even invented it's "great", but at least to me it was just a phase where I liked cartoons and drawed blood and fighting in them. Hell I hadn't even heard the word anime until nowadays, when you can see (almost) all teenagers fancying it.

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As far as the topic I would love to see the soldiers in Dog soldiers battleing either against aliens or predators. They had some character and attitude you don't see in either one of the avp's.

I don't know about you guys, but expressing stories with art is interesting. The same way a bard tells a story with music, or when people act upon a stage. I couldn't possibly imagine someone who dislikes animations to like any video-game in existence, since well, its the same thing. As for Anime, its audience is usually aimed at teenagers now a'days. However, for those that aren't, like Deadspace, if you don't like them, at least respect the art and process plz. Being a Graphic Designer/illustrator it saddens me that some find animations(in general, not just anime) a silly way of expressing things, when one can find some of the most emotionally stirring events within them.

BUT YES.


I would like to see Aliens vs predator,instead of Aliens Vs Predator vs random group of humans.

Wow, when people take this so seriously and almost boil over, it only shows that people got a great fetish over animation. It sounds more like a cultish religion right now, as it would be something people would worship, rather than watch for personal interest and joy. Well not everyone want to be converted into a anime fan, or see everything in anime. And that should be respected, as well that people love anime... When they don't go crazy when someone break their little bubble...j/k

When it comes to seeing animation as art, then i guess it is the new art for modern kids. But personally i dont look at it as art, but more like cartoon for kids. Maybe im old fashion, but i rather see Mona Lisa than Mona Lisa Kawaii, or FullMetal Gogh with weird japanese facial expressions, and robotitc tentacles with gore on the background.

I do work with design since I'm a interior architect designer (at least i try... lol), and I've been taught a lot about interior, architect, graphic design, lighting and the rest of the package. And i remember when these japanophiles at last year just made sterotypical japanese anime, and believed that was japanese traditional art. The teachers were like "Wtf? Aren't you students a bit too old liking this stuff?" When expecting to old fashion japanese art.

But, for them japanophiles the western animes called The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park and the rest, was idiotic for them, because they had a plot and made fun world issues and everything else, rather than being japanese anime style with robots, evil tentacle monsters, lasers, teenage heros with no parents (since the sadist writers wanted them dead), occult alchemist stuff, ninja, sake, noodles, sushi, anarchy, emosim, vampirsm, pedophilia... Which have been used too many times.

Disney Movies? Well seemed like that was bad as well.
Waltz With Bashir? Well they hated that too because it was political and middle eastern.

And yes, i did try watch those animes mentioned. FullMetal Alchemist, Naruto, Cowboy Bebop, etc, etc. But it just annoys me. And its funny how weird people look at me when i say im not a fan of anime, as i would be alien or a weirdo. But everyone got their own taste, and i respect others as long as they respect mine. But this whole anime thing is too monotonous. It's too much of it. And someday, and that day may never come, they'll even try make anime out of Schindler's List, Forrest Gump (with prosthetic robotic laser legs), The Godfather, Heat, Vanilla Sky (Vannilla Rave Sky?).

But the closest movie you get to which could fit to anime, is probably Twilight. Now, I'm not even gonna start telling how much i disliked that movie on this topic, because of personally experienc, i got angry fans on my neck because of that.

But if people sees anime as a holy thing, then perhaps both anti-anime and pro-anime comments and ideas should be left from this topic. Because i dont want any suicide bomber on my door tomorrow 7'o clock in the morning... Okay that was a bit rough, lol.

But my novel ends now.

I completely understand where you're coming from when you're talking about Anime, but as crappy as most animes are, they're still using artistic merit. Its Art, but its not Art I find beautiful. It sounds like your dislike for it comes more from as you said "its being worshiped" rather then its actually lacking artistic merit as far as inking and the actual animating process goes.

And I really don't mind if people like it or not, to each his own you know? I don't believe anyone is getting "boiled over"either. It just seems to me that people are under the impression that all animations are drawn in cartoon-styles and are meant for children, and that all animations are anime. *shrug* I actually have resentment towards anime; you listed pretty much all the reasons lul.

Heres an example of a non-cartoon, in depth animation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl6hNj1uOkY&feature=channel_page

I don't know about you, but I don't know how someone wouldn't call this a piece of art.

well, I just think it would be a great idea for an Animated Alien film. wtf? why not have a movie composed of intirely CGI? oh wait, thats right, everybody hates CGI Aliens.

anywho, back on topic. how bouts....

ALIEN vs Master Chief?

So, I guess we're back to the end of that other "what if?... anime" topic from a while back: some people wouldn't mind it, others think it would ruin the franchise. That's alright, I mean, maybe it would. It's just, there are great animations out there, whether you believe they're bad or not.

There are many things about anime I have every kind of problem with, but, you know, some people enjoy that and I can at least respect that.

I think it's best if we move on, which a lot of you have probably already done, so, anyway...

...To the Master Chief x Alien question: Done.

Great artist, by the way.

BLoo, that's how i pictured Malus's group, all halo

So... Crossovers...

Predator vs. Jack the Ripper (preferably something like the 'From Hell' version, and by that I mean the comic and not the crappy movie) could be pretty cool.

Goku vs predator

That would be so ridiculous that I'd have to see it, just to see how it turns out.

Predator vs King Willie. That would be an epic fight.



lol

Predator vs Micheal Jackson. the ultimate court case!

What, that would just be Michael Jackson vs himself...

Predator vs. ZALGO.

http://alienlovespredator.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3274

Keep reading until about the 4th page. It's awesomely fucked up.