How did the Preds get the Aliens from the Space Jockys?

Deathdrop, Yautja, 20 years ago

Ok, we know the Space Jocky probably created the Xenos, but how did the Preds get them? The whole "hunt Xenos on Earth" thing started about 700 years ago (or something like that...) but that Space Jocky coorpse from Aliens looked maybe 100 years old. Who created the Xenos? Space Jockys or Preds? They both apparently had them, but the Space Jockys were wiped out. So who started up the Xenomorph speices? It couldn't have possibly occored natrally, someone had to create them, so who did it?

daveberg, Yautja, 20 years ago

space jockeys still live. they are the creators of the aliens. they bred them as weapons against the predators (supposedly) the jockeys used to transport the aliens from world to world to rid the place of predators, the jockeys have special weapons (something to do with sound i do beleive) which has the ability to control or destroy the aliens, though the derelict craft on LV4-26 was involved in a meteor shower which disabled the protective field holding the alien eggs dormant alowing them to awaken and take the ship and its crew (the jockeys) by suprise.

daveberg, Yautja, 20 years ago

i presume in the heat of a battle or an ambush, the preds gained access to a cargo hold of alien aggs and took them for their own controlled hunting purposes.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 20 years ago

So, were Preds and Jockys in some kinda war then?

daveberg, Yautja, 20 years ago

i think so. this has been speculated and i think briefly touched upon in either the comics or the books. though the aliens were not really controlable and the jockeys knew this hence they kept a protective field around the eggs to keep them in hybernation, once dispatched onto a planet which contained preds, the aliens would breed, then destroy the preds then the jockeys would destroy the aliens. i'm not sure how accurate this info is, i read about it quite some time ago.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 20 years ago

Hhhmmmmmmm... I wonder what they were fighting over?

daveberg, Yautja, 20 years ago

who knows......

Topdogg, Yautja, 20 years ago

they kinda put that element in primal hunt with the artifact thatthe predators were trying to get hold of but what makes me think is that the jokeys were massive and the one in alien looked like an alien came out of it, it must have been massive like twice the size of a normal drone

Deathdrop, Yautja, 20 years ago

Hhhmmmmmm... Perhaps the Preds were hunting the Jockys, and that pissed the Jocky's government off, and thats what started it. It was probably more complicated then that though...

daveberg, Yautja, 20 years ago

topdogg yr dpot on - the jockeys are massive - i think you get to see one of them in the graphic novel earth hive - though i may be wrong about this, but i def know its shown in one of the comics.

Topdogg, Yautja, 20 years ago

if the original aliens were like that they would have looked differant from the ones we'v seen and that would eat a pred one go no doubt

Newborn, Yautja, 18 years ago

The space jockey's created the xenomorph 10,000 years ago beacuse they were at war with each other and the aliens ended up killing all the space jockey's! 700 years ago the preds got the xenomorph sense they were so powerful and fun to hunt.

All heil The alien Empress

Newborn, Yautja, 18 years ago

The space jockey's created a powerful alien called THE MUTATION / PROTOTYPE
The mutation either is the next stage of the xenomorph organism or a prototype design. Evidence seem to point that is neither, a separate purpose organism designed for an ulterior motive. It could be possible that the Biomechanoids have fashioned different organisms for every facet of their lives. It is said that the ships and weapons are all mindless organisms, each designed to serve a different purpose and that the aliens we are aware of are just the different forms of a mindless organic machines, except these are bent on destruction. The Mutation, as it was called, is an organism seemingly only found in ruins of the Jockey race leading evidence that they are sentries or guards for their long dead masters. It seems obvious that these creatures were designed first and that the aliens we are aware came after, based on this successful design.
It seems apparent that these mutants were never mutations but a totally redesigned organism. They bare many similarities to the offensive creatures encountered in the Terran systems but are created from a totally different template. Both are very violent to their opponents, both are large, black, armored, and single-minded in their purpose. However, these creatures never rebelled against their masters because they were never programmed to be offensive. They are totally designed from a defensive standpoint. There is no hive structure, no central brain nor a desire for expansion. It can still grow and heal by the absorption of outside materials whether organic or inorganic but cannot reproduce by the use of eggs or queens.

The Prototype is larger, stronger, and more intelligent compared to an alien drone. However, it has no desire to reproduce. It is usually kept alone or sometimes paired up to defend a certain installation, craft, or person. Once programmed, it can only be reprogrammed by someone who can access its biological programming. This biological programming is done when the creature is created, usually in a large vat in a lab either on a planet or on a ship. The creature is assembled from scratch and implanted with instructions on what to do. It is a very difficult task to reprogram since it entails removing the creature’s brain and biologically reprogramming the syn. This is only capable by a Jockey using its biomechanical technology even though it is not impossible for a doctor with a masters in Synthetic engineering to crack it, if he could ever get the creature to stand still love enough to have its brain removed. Even then it is no guarantee that the implantation would be successful. The brain is located in a large skull-life formation, in the trunk. Its head is a long-formed snake-like neck with an end formed with spear-like teeth. It has long legs and arms that end in many fingers with long digits.

The unit is also programmed only to allow a certain number of fellow mutations around it. If the number is greater, the group will remove the straggler. If under the limit, they are responsible for making up the difference. These creatures cannot necessarily reproduce, but can create, from the ground up, their own mutation be converting biological life and then reprogramming a brain on a copy of their own. It takes more than 800 lbs. of bio-mass to create a mutation and the process can take more than 48 hours. There has never been a report of a prototype breaking its programming since there is nothing below it. In a one-on-one fight, an xenomorph is no match for its predecessor but the shear numbers of the aliens sway the odds since Mutations are never seen in more than packs of three or four.
Their special abilities follow.

GROWTH: A prototype has no pre-designed lifespan and can exist as long as there are sufficient supplies to maintain its own biomechanical cells.

BODY: The skin is immune to all atmospheric effect including zero-G. It does not use air as we know it. It needs air to produce sound of course and also maintain temperature.

SENSES: The prototype uses motion and pressure senses to locate its enemy. It can also use smell and hearing as well, but it has no form of visual senses. It cannot be blinded in any way. It is also immune to radiation, and all Gases. Unlike other creatures, these prototypes will not retreat from fire .

PROTOTYPES DO NOT HAVE ACIDIC BLOOD

DETECTION : Prototypes are invisible to infrared and therm-optics. They can remain perfectly still and immune to motion sensors unless they decide to move. All normal detection systems are normal.

PSIONICS (OPTIONAL)
--Prototypes can talk mentally with their Jockey masters and answer to their call easily.
--Prototypes are immune to Mental Illusions and Mind Link.
--Mind Control is possible but hard.

OTHER ABILITIES: Prototypes are immune to all other psychological problems as well as all known diseases. Electricity has only a half effect. They can never be fatigued or stunned. Therefore, the following characteristics are not applicable: Humanity, Endurance, and Luck.

Stun Defense is given a very high number.
All Characteristics not listed are assumed to be One.
CHARACTERISTICS:
INT: 8 WILL: 10 REF: 13 TECH: 7 DEX: 15
CON: 13 STR: 17 BODY: 17 RUN: 24 SWIM / LEAP: 8

HITS: 85 (1.7 K) KD: 18 (0.2 K) ED: 20 (0.5 K)
STUN: 120 SD: 30 REC: 30

WEAPONS: Range: WA: DC: SPECIAL
Teeth
Claws 2m
1 m +1
+1 9
6 Can also grapple / armor piercing
Can also grapple

All heil The alien Empress

Parai, Yautja, 18 years ago

ok this is how i see it. the space jockys breed xenomorphs as a wepond to fight the predators. but the aliens started to run out of hosts so they turned on their creators, which would explane why they had to build the artifct in primal hunt. as for the predators they saw how hard it was to kill a large number of xenomorphs and captured some eggs from the hive. then they spent the next few years looking for the a primitve planet, so that the inhabitents will not put up much of a fight while being facehugged. and so they found earth and worshiped as gods and you all know the rest.

cutm3up, Yautja, 18 years ago

wow... i didnt know any of that, i always thought that aliuens have always been there enxt to predators, battling it out, and i thought space jockys were just jockys who i always liked to watch die...how wrong i was...theyre still good to watch die though

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Unknown, Yautja, 18 years ago

*cough* copy and paste *cough*

I cant remember where I saw that before, but I think it was an alien RPG (The table top kind) website. I'll look for the link, or, if it was a PDF file, I'll post the download link.


Edit:
Link found. Here it is: http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-Plug-In-JockeyRace.htm

Hey, ya might learn somthing new about Xenomorphs while you at it too. Or Predators.

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Newborn, Yautja, 18 years ago

I got it from this site http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien--BrackensTerror1.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-Statistics.htm&h=506&w=400&sz=59&tbnid=cOI5SR-1blU7SM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=101&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbracken%2Balien%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s

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navyspaz, Yautja, 18 years ago

Newborn pleeeaase do not bring up old topics like this one. its not against the rules just no one likes it. people get confused. it could be someone complaining about something and then they got over it and when you bring it back up they could think they started it again. its just best the old topics dont Post on.

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Newborn, Yautja, 18 years ago

OK

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predatoress, Yautja, 18 years ago

lol Please no one word posts either, thank you lmao If we are going to get Dave and the other old members back the rules must be followed.

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